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    Predefinito Vorrei fare un upgrade al mio sistema. Me lo consigliate?

    Acquistato nel 2005 (Fujitsu Siemens)

    Athlon 64 3500+
    1 G RAM
    250 HD (di cui 38 occupati)
    Scheda video ATI Radeon X600

    Mi piacerebbe avere un processore + moderno, magari 4 G di RAM. L'HD non mi interessa più di tanto visto l'utilizzo che già ci faccio ora.
    Attualmente ho installato (solo) Ubuntu 64 e vorrei continuare in questa direzione.
    Ho un monitor LCD Acer da 19 pollici e mi piacerebbe passare ad un 22, ma credoc he la scheda grafica non gli "stia dietro".
    Che mi consigliate? Fare un upgrade o cambiare tutto?

    Grazie
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    Dipende dall'uso che fai: usi VM? o molte applications attive allo stesso tempo? o video editing? giochi 3d?

    Io sono contrario a buttar via i soldi se non serve. Fai un profiling delle risorse in uso mentre girano gli applicativi piu' pesanti che interessano a TE. Vedi se i limiti sono di CPU/memoria/swap/IO. Poi decidi.

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    In ogni caso puoi gia' fare l'upgrade ad Ubuntu 8.10, in teoria alcune operazioni sono piu' veloci.

    sudo update-manager -c

    (non spegnere il pc mentre fai l'upgrade)

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    Se usi molto il browser (come penso) installa Firefox 3.1b ed attiva tracemonkey... MOLTO piu' veloce.

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    In realtà il mio PC va benino così, per quello che ci faccio, navigo e ascolto musica. Mi piacerebbe però avere un PC aggiornato.

    Tu installeresti 8.10 ora? In questi giorni ho tempo, ptrei dedicarmici.

    Ecco cos'ho ora

    description: Desktop Computer
    product: MS-7191
    vendor: MSI
    version: 1.0
    serial: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
    width: 32 bits
    capabilities: smbios-2.3 dmi-2.3 smp-1.4 smp
    configuration: chassis=desktop cpus=0 uuid=00020003-0004-0005-0006-000700080009
    *-core
    description: Motherboard
    product: MS-7191
    vendor: MSI
    physical id: 0
    version: 1.0
    serial: To be filled by O.E.M.
    slot: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
    *-firmware
    description: BIOS
    vendor: American Megatrends Inc.
    physical id: 0
    version: 080012 (10/14/2005)
    size: 64KiB
    capacity: 448KiB
    capabilities: isa pci pnp apm upgrade shadowing escd cdboot bootselect socketedrom edd int13floppy1200 int13floppy720 int13floppy2880 int5printscreen int9keyboard int14serial int17printer int10video acpi usb ls120boot zipboot biosbootspecification
    *-cpu
    description: CPU
    product: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+
    vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
    physical id: 4
    bus info: [email protected]
    version: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+
    serial: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
    slot: CPU 1
    size: 2200MHz
    capacity: 2200MHz
    width: 64 bits
    clock: 200MHz
    capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext x86-64 3dnowext 3dnow up rep_good
    *-cache:0
    description: L1 cache
    physical id: 5
    slot: L1-Cache
    size: 64KiB
    capacity: 64KiB
    capabilities: pipeline-burst internal varies data
    *-cache:1
    description: L2 cache
    physical id: 6
    slot: L2-Cache
    size: 512KiB
    capacity: 512KiB
    capabilities: pipeline-burst internal varies unified
    *-cache:2 DISABLED
    description: L3 cache
    physical id: 7
    slot: L3-Cache
    capabilities: internal
    *-memory
    description: System Memory
    physical id: 2b
    slot: System board or motherboard
    size: 1GiB
    *-bank:0
    description: DIMM DDR Synchronous 333 MHz (3.0 ns)
    product: PartNum0
    vendor: Manufacturer0
    physical id: 0
    serial: SerNum0
    slot: DIMM0
    size: 512MiB
    width: 64 bits
    clock: 333MHz (3.0ns)
    *-bank:1
    description: DIMM SDRAM [empty]
    product: PartNum1
    vendor: Manufacturer1
    physical id: 1
    serial: SerNum1
    slot: DIMM1
    *-bank:2
    description: DIMM DDR Synchronous 333 MHz (3.0 ns)
    product: PartNum2
    vendor: Manufacturer2
    physical id: 2
    serial: SerNum2
    slot: DIMM2
    size: 512MiB
    width: 64 bits
    clock: 333MHz (3.0ns)
    *-bank
    description: DIMM SDRAM [empty]
    product: PartNum3
    vendor: Manufacturer3
    physical id: 3
    serial: SerNum3
    slot: DIMM3
    *-pci:0
    description: Host bridge
    product: RS480 Host Bridge
    vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
    physical id: 100
    bus info: [email protected]:00:00.0
    version: 10
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 66MHz
    *-pci:0
    description: PCI bridge
    product: RS480 PCI-X Root Port
    vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
    physical id: 2
    bus info: [email protected]:00:02.0
    version: 00
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 33MHz
    capabilities: pci pm pciexpress msi ht normal_decode bus_master cap_list
    configuration: driver=pcieport-driver
    *-display:0
    description: VGA compatible controller
    product: RV380 [Radeon X600 (PCIE)]
    vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
    physical id: 0
    bus info: [email protected]:01:00.0
    version: 00
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 33MHz
    capabilities: pm pciexpress msi vga_controller bus_master cap_list
    configuration: driver=fglrx_pci latency=0 module=fglrx
    *-display:1 UNCLAIMED
    description: Display controller
    product: RV380 [Radeon X600]
    vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
    physical id: 0.1
    bus info: [email protected]:01:00.1
    version: 00
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 33MHz
    capabilities: pm pciexpress bus_master cap_list
    configuration: latency=0
    *-ide:0
    description: IDE interface
    product: IXP SB400 Serial ATA Controller
    vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
    physical id: 11
    bus info: [email protected]:00:11.0
    logical name: scsi1
    version: 80
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 66MHz
    capabilities: ide pm msi bus_master cap_list emulated
    configuration: driver=sata_sil latency=64 module=sata_sil
    *-disk
    description: ATA Disk
    product: WDC WD2500JD-00H
    vendor: Western Digital
    physical id: 0.0.0
    bus info: [email protected]:0.0.0
    logical name: /dev/sda
    version: 08.0
    serial: WD-WCAL74087941
    size: 232GiB (250GB)
    capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos
    configuration: ansiversion=5 signature=f433d7f7
    *-volume:0
    description: EXT3 volume
    vendor: Linux
    physical id: 1
    bus info: [email protected]:0.0.0,1
    logical name: /dev/sda1
    logical name: /
    logical name: /dev/.static/dev
    version: 1.0
    serial: b56670e6-d458-4c21-8287-8108cee2b33c
    size: 230GiB
    capacity: 230GiB
    capabilities: primary bootable journaled extended_attributes large_files huge_files recover ext3 ext2 initialized
    configuration: created=2008-02-10 1635 filesystem=ext3 modified=2008-10-23 0158 mount.fstype=ext3 mount.options=rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered mounted=2008-10-23 0028 state=mounted
    *-volume:1
    description: Extended partition
    physical id: 2
    bus info: [email protected]:0.0.0,2
    logical name: /dev/sda2
    size: 2941MiB
    capacity: 2941MiB
    capabilities: primary extended partitioned partitioned:extended
    *-logicalvolume
    description: Linux swap / Solaris partition
    physical id: 5
    logical name: /dev/sda5
    capacity: 2941MiB
    capabilities: nofs
    *-ide:1
    description: IDE interface
    product: IXP SB400 Serial ATA Controller
    vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
    physical id: 12
    bus info: [email protected]:00:12.0
    version: 80
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 66MHz
    capabilities: ide pm msi bus_master cap_list
    configuration: driver=sata_sil latency=64 module=sata_sil
    *-usb:0
    description: USB Controller
    product: IXP SB400 USB Host Controller
    vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
    physical id: 13
    bus info: [email protected]:00:13.0
    version: 80
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 66MHz
    capabilities: msi ohci bus_master cap_list
    configuration: driver=ohci_hcd latency=64 module=ohci_hcd
    *-usb:1
    description: USB Controller
    product: IXP SB400 USB Host Controller
    vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
    physical id: 13.1
    bus info: [email protected]:00:13.1
    version: 80
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 66MHz
    capabilities: msi ohci bus_master cap_list
    configuration: driver=ohci_hcd latency=64 module=ohci_hcd
    *-usb:2
    description: USB Controller
    product: IXP SB400 USB2 Host Controller
    vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
    physical id: 13.2
    bus info: [email protected]:00:13.2
    version: 80
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 66MHz
    capabilities: pm msi ehci bus_master cap_list
    configuration: driver=ehci_hcd latency=64 module=ehci_hcd
    *-serial
    description: SMBus
    product: IXP SB400 SMBus Controller
    vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
    physical id: 14
    bus info: [email protected]:00:14.0
    version: 81
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 66MHz
    capabilities: ht cap_list
    configuration: driver=piix4_smbus latency=0 module=i2c_piix4
    *-ide:2
    description: IDE interface
    product: IXP SB400 IDE Controller
    vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
    physical id: 14.1
    bus info: [email protected]:00:14.1
    logical name: scsi4
    version: 80
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 66MHz
    capabilities: ide msi bus_master cap_list emulated
    configuration: driver=pata_atiixp latency=64 module=pata_atiixp
    *-cdrom:0
    description: DVD reader
    product: DROM6216
    vendor: PHILIPS
    physical id: 0.0.0
    bus info: [email protected]:0.0.0
    logical name: /dev/cdrom2
    logical name: /dev/dvd2
    logical name: /dev/scd0
    logical name: /dev/sr0
    version: DD05
    capabilities: removable audio dvd
    configuration: ansiversion=5 status=open
    *-cdrom:1
    description: DVD-RAM writer
    product: DVDRAM GSA-4167B
    vendor: HL-DT-ST
    physical id: 0.1.0
    bus info: [email protected]:0.1.0
    logical name: /dev/scd1
    logical name: /dev/sr1
    version: DL11
    capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd dvd-r dvd-ram
    configuration: ansiversion=5 status=open
    *-multimedia
    description: Audio device
    product: IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio Controller
    vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
    physical id: 14.2
    bus info: [email protected]:00:14.2
    version: 01
    width: 64 bits
    clock: 33MHz
    capabilities: pm msi bus_master cap_list
    configuration: driver=HDA Intel latency=64 module=snd_hda_intel
    *-isa
    description: ISA bridge
    product: IXP SB400 PCI-ISA Bridge
    vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
    physical id: 14.3
    bus info: [email protected]:00:14.3
    version: 80
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 66MHz
    capabilities: isa bus_master
    configuration: latency=0
    *-pci:1
    description: PCI bridge
    product: IXP SB400 PCI-PCI Bridge
    vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
    physical id: 14.4
    bus info: [email protected]:00:14.4
    version: 80
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 66MHz
    capabilities: pci subtractive_decode bus_master
    *-communication UNCLAIMED
    description: Communication controller
    product: HSF 56k Data/Fax Modem
    vendor: Conexant
    physical id: 1
    bus info: [email protected]01.0
    version: 00
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 33MHz
    capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
    configuration: latency=64
    *-network
    description: Ethernet interface
    product: RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
    vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
    physical id: 3
    bus info: [email protected]03.0
    logical name: eth0
    version: 10
    serial: 00d3:ab:fa:7a
    size: 100MB/s
    capacity: 100MB/s
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 33MHz
    capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
    configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=8139too driverversion=0.9.28 duplex=full latency=64 link=yes maxlatency=64 mingnt=32 module=8139too multicast=yes port=MII speed=100MB/s
    *-firewire
    description: FireWire (IEEE 1394)
    product: IEEE 1394 Host Controller
    vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
    physical id: 4
    bus info: [email protected]04.0
    version: 80
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 33MHz
    capabilities: pm ohci bus_master cap_list
    configuration: driver=ohci1394 latency=64 maxlatency=32 module=ohci1394
    *-pci:1
    description: Host bridge
    product: K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
    vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
    physical id: 101
    bus info: [email protected]:00:18.0
    version: 00
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 33MHz
    *-pci:2
    description: Host bridge
    product: K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
    vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
    physical id: 102
    bus info: [email protected]:00:18.1
    version: 00
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 33MHz
    *-pci
    description: Host bridge
    product: K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
    vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
    physical id: 103
    bus info: [email protected]:00:18.2
    version: 00
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 33MHz
    *-pci:4
    description: Host bridge
    product: K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
    vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
    physical id: 104
    bus info: [email protected]:00:18.3
    version: 00
    width: 32 bits
    clock: 33MHz
    configuration: driver=k8temp module=k8temp
    *-scsi
    physical id: 1
    bus info: [email protected]:7
    logical name: scsi6
    capabilities: emulated scsi-host
    configuration: driver=usb-storage
    *-disk:0
    description: SCSI Disk
    product: STORAGE DEVICE
    vendor: Generic
    physical id: 0.0.0
    bus info: [email protected]:0.0.0
    logical name: /dev/sdb
    version: 9144
    capabilities: removable
    *-medium
    physical id: 0
    logical name: /dev/sdb
    *-disk:1
    description: SCSI Disk
    product: STORAGE DEVICE
    vendor: Generic
    physical id: 0.0.1
    bus info: [email protected]:0.0.1
    logical name: /dev/sdc
    version: 9144
    capabilities: removable
    *-medium
    physical id: 0
    logical name: /dev/sdc
    *-disk:2
    description: SCSI Disk
    product: STORAGE DEVICE
    vendor: Generic
    physical id: 0.0.2
    bus info: [email protected]:0.0.2
    logical name: /dev/sdd
    version: 9144
    capabilities: removable
    *-medium
    physical id: 0
    logical name: /dev/sdd
    *-disk
    description: SCSI Disk
    product: STORAGE DEVICE
    vendor: Generic
    physical id: 0.0.3
    bus info: [email protected]:0.0.3
    logical name: /dev/sde
    version: 9144
    capabilities: removable
    *-medium
    physical id: 0
    logical name: /dev/sde
    *-disk:4
    description: SCSI Disk
    product: STORAGE DEVICE
    vendor: Generic
    physical id: 0.0.4
    bus info: [email protected]:0.0.4
    logical name: /dev/sdf
    version: 9144
    capabilities: removable
    *-medium
    physical id: 0
    logical name: /dev/sdf
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    VM cos'è?
    There are only 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary and those who don't

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    fermo restando quello che giustamente consiglia Ago (ovvero che uso ne fai del PC) credo che con due euri puoi portare la ram a 2 GB e implementare la scheda video...che era di fascia media nel 2005 ....ora ne trovi a prezzi stracciati di fascia bassa molto migliori della tua......e comunque ad occhio mi par che il problema del monitor non ci sia.

    Insomma è un problema di qualità/prezzo e necessità..mio fratello giorni fa si è venduto un PC come il tuo (compreso monitor) a 200€ per farsene uno nuovo perdendo nel cambio circa 500€.......(un dell completo di schermo 20'')

    io ho fatto lo stesso a gennaio....ma facevo anche video editing
    ti dico solo che con il vecchio per trasformare un divx in dvd ci volevano mediamente tre ore....con il nuovo 15-20 minuti

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    VM e' un virtual machine, per far girare altri sistemi operativi all'interno di quello attuale. Ma se non lo usi non c'e' problema

    Per compiti ordinari (=no vm, no video editing, no 3d games) il tuo PC va benone.

    Come detto fai l'upgrade a 8.10 e ci sono alcune piccole modifiche per migliorare la performance, trovi varie guide in giro. Ma sopratutto:

    Installa ff 3.1b ed attiva tracemonkey (about: config -> jit -> true)
    Disattiva i servizi che non ti servono

    E sono d'accordo che memoria (2GB sono piu' che sufficienti) e video card non dovrebbero costar troppo. Ovviamente controlla prima che la video card funzioni bene con Ubuntu

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    Citazione Originariamente Scritto da Ago Visualizza Messaggio
    Se usi molto il browser (come penso) installa Firefox 3.1b ed attiva tracemonkey... MOLTO piu' veloce.
    Come lo installo il 3.1b?
    There are only 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary and those who don't

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    Attenzione che la strada dei tweaks di Linux e' un bottomless pit
    Il fondo e' piu' o meno qui:

    http://www.slitaz.org/en/

    ^ distribuzione Linux in 30 MB!!!! e gira completamente da ram...
    Questa vola su qualsiasi PC

 

 
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